Saturday, April 23, 2011

CLIMATE TALKS IN BANGKOK: rich countries should do more in South Africa

Dear Friends--
I would like to agree with Stephen Mwakesi that the whole issue of climate financing has been elevated to look elitist by a few countries and companies that are profiteering from the process in Africa. I have had an opportunity to interact with Carbon Asset Companies in Europe, most of them have come to Africa with the Climate jargon, they enter into communities and launch their programs knowing very well that the community members do not understand their activities. They flash aid money in form of alleviating poverty and in some cases, development or simply governance kind of aid money. In the real sense, this companies are actually minting billions of dollars out of our virgin communities and smiling all the way to their Swiss banks.

Most of our political leaders still don't understand the technicalities that come with carbon financing. They rush to sign the contract agreement without reading in between the lines, we end up being the losers while this companies take advantage of our innocent ignorance. Indeed developing nations should be the ones to dictate the terms o engagement, sadly this is not the case. We need a new kind of advocacy, the west is not ready to see this happen. But we must insist if we have to start reworking the radical paradigm for Green Development in Africa for the world. A radical shift on how we engage with the developed nations will be the only medicine to the engagement.

I am of the opinion that developing nations should originate the contractual agreements. Africa must start to take lead of the discussions, we have more stake than those who are purporting to be on the front line. How do we create the jobs of tomorrow in Africa by Africans using African resources and brains? Climate Change will remain a shifty affair now that the west knows that it is the new kid on the block to unleash the kind of development money that Africa needs to leapfrog beyond the place that the west is in terms of economic, and infrastructural development.  It is true that the West is using the research now as a dangling carrot to woo communities into signing deals that will impoverish them. This is a power game as in a shopkeeper who fights to keep the poverty levels in his village at the same level in order to continue selling to the people products and not allowing for any kind of innovation to take place because he/she stands to lose if the community realizes that the new and innovative ways of dependency and come up with a way to self sufficiency using own resources and brains.

The West should stop the power games and make sure this time round the real owners of the deal have their way on the negotiating table as we head to South Africa. Climate Mitigation and Adaptation should be owned by the real stakeholders who will reverse this effects once and for all. We have a bigger stake on this issues as Africa, let us achieve an African Deal in the Climate Talks.

Emmanuel Dennis
Green Teams Initiative.


On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM, stephen mwakesi <smwakesi@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,

Very interesting debates raised above.
I would like to carry on with it on three prongs, the UNFCCC process, Climate Finance and Contextual scenario of Kenya.

Indeed the whole issue of the UNFCCC process has been one that has dominated debate and ever more so since the COP 15. The fact that the discussions have tended to yield little in form of  binding commitments has lead to the general fatigue within CSOs dealing with the process. Matter of fact just recently I had debate with one of the partners in climate change in Kenya and she did express that most of the actors in the field are quite hopeless than hopeful. Going through the motions, thats what they seem to be doing. But as expressed by Mithika and Bwana Otieno before, we cannot afford to give up with the process. From what I have been able to gather is that, in as much as we approach this process from a justice prism, we should not be blind to the fact that this whole scenario is based upon economics and the politics of economics. The tethering that is being witnessed from the developed nations only emanates from the fact that the whole climate debate posses a threat to the status quo and the whole energy paradigm as it exists. Indeed until the big corporate interests have a clear foothold on the renewable and alternative energy sectors from a control and profit standpoint, they will constantly keep to the card of delay and paralyse until they come round. Whenever I spend time considering the positions taken in most of these high-level discussions, I come round to appreciating the fact that all this a big game of geopolitics with the dominant actors (read G8) as the gladiators playing to a crowd of hopeless and defenceless people who have not much to do lest the only persons in the amphitheatre with weapons turn on them. So this leads me to the next prong...

Climate Finance is indeed one of the key angles of entry for the developing nations within the UNFCCC process. Indeed I have argued before that within the Climate process Climate Finance through Adaptation and Mitigation is the map for a new development trajectory for the developing world. What has been the issue of contention, and with this argument am cautious, is the fact that developing nations are still playing the aid model yet in actual fact that should not be the case. As Halima has aptly pointed out we fail to move because we do not see this as an opportunity to create a new playing field where we are defining the terms and calling the shots in defining the new green development paradigm. As we spend time arguing on the texts, its vital that we invest energies in also defining the contracts and terms that Africa enters into in this new field that is slowly evolving. As Philip Kilonzo has pointed out, the new battle ground is in Africa and now the idea is to re-define the commodity that is land afresh and be able to create a new development paradigm with resources, labour and the entrepreneurial capacity being drawn from Africa with very little capital injection from the west. My fear has been that as we have been clamouring for more climate finance we have failed to look at the finer details and more and more communities are signing on the dotted lines significantly giving away their entrepreneurial skills, networks and labour for peanuts and still the real money has not arrived. When the money actually does arrive guess who will be in charge of all the mitigation and adaptation programs?

Contextualising the realities of today, I say that the battle with the establishment is one that can only be won with diligent spirits. Frankly, I think especially Africans of the Kenyan ilk are disappointingly not as fervent in the quest for justice as would be expected. Frankly am disappointed that the most that has come as protest or disgust out of the Hague antics and the Corruption dismissals has been side whispers and on-line chatter and maybe am disappointing myself too with this addition...Enough Said...For now perhaps...

Lets keep talking and begin acting,

Regards,

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On 15 April 2011 14:33, Philip Kilonzo <Philip.Kilonzo@actionaid.org> wrote:

Dear all,

 

Financing for climate change mitigation programmes is quite an interesting area. Again the debate tilts to financing mitigation mainly in Africa.

 

As interesting as it is we need to be aware that we might give proposal that will open doors for land grabs in Kenya and Africa as a whole. Financing for mitigation if not well construed may be the avenue for the last and final wave of land acquisition (land grabbing) and may lead to massive acquisition of land previously public and community land. This reality is increasingly becoming clear in some quarters.

 

So any proposal we are fronting must cushion community and public land from private acquisition – real or implied.

 

Philip

 


From: kenya-climate-change-working-group@googlegroups.com [mailto:kenya-climate-change-working-group@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Halima Murunga
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:46 AM
To: Dominic WALUBENGO
Cc: josephmeruaki@yahoo.com; pacja-updates@googlegroups.com; kenya-climate-change-working-group@googlegroups.com; Mithika Mwenda; Philip Otieno; molenkako@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: (KCCWG) CLIMATE TALKS IN BANGKOK: rich countries should do more in South Africa

 

Hello all

They way carbon trading mechanism is slowly turning into a finance market the best option for climate financing is to create carbon finance products that Kenyans can invest, generate revenue to finance climate mitigation programmes. To save the Mau why not develop bonds or a futures for the whole catchment area that can attract investors for restoration purposes...

Think in house, if corporate entities have raised billions from debt financing why can't we.

On Apr 13, 2011 11:52 PM, "Dominic WALUBENGO" <waluwande@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,

Very good points. I have been following the climate change debate since 1988 and I am certain that the rhetoric has not changed. Every developed country (including China and India) is doing what is in their best interest. For all these years, the developing countries working through the Group of 77 and China have been demanding for climate justice; and climate related funding. This funding has not arrived, although a little money has come in but given names which make it look like new money. The sooner we stop fooling ourselves the better!

Dominic Walubengo



On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Mithika Mwenda <mwemithika@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Also look at se...

Dominic Walubengo PhD
DWalubengo@fankenya.org

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Re: Where did these IDPs come from?

My Friends--
The issue of the IDP's will bedevil Kenya for a long time unless we
come up with a clear cut solution. Since we have IDPS all the way from
the MAUMAU days, I am of the opinion that Government does an audit and
makes sure that all Kenyans who want to own land for commercial
purposes are given a piece. I am sure the numbers of the IDPs are
negligible in the face of the Government. The Problem is when the
Government starts to use the issue for political gain. If this drags
on with the old way of politic, it is going to be very costly for
Kenya.

The government can no longer continue to profiteer politically with
the livelihoods of Kenyans. We now need to find a permanent solution
and make sure that this people are resettled once for all so that
Kenya can start to focus on other important issues such as Economic
and Structural Development.

And why are some of the IDPs refusing to go to some of the land that
has already been purchased for them? Where exactly do they want to be
ressetled? Can we as Kenyans embrace each other and accept that Kenya
is for all of us? When shall we begin to look at each other as the
keepers of each other peace and tranquility?

Sad news is that the current leadership can no longer manage this kind
of discourse. We need a fresh breed of Kenyans to rise up to the
echelons of leadership. Only then, when we start to re-look and rework
our old structures and rework them, shall we resolve the problems that
undermine peace, democracy and development in Kenya.

Will the current challenges that Kenya faces today be resolved by a
Benevolent Dictator? May be. I wonder loudly.

Emmanuel Dennis

On Apr 23, 2:48 pm, Njoroge Waithera <njorogep2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bwana Oketch,
>
> I do not pretend to have the answers to your many questions but I know one thing; and that is that not all who were displaced had title to the land they occupied in the places from which they were displaced during the PEV. There are those who leased land and earned livelihoods for decades that way; others simply squatted on adjudicatted public or private places and provided labour in the farms or simply depended on symbiotic relationships they had with their hosts but all these came to naught at the disolution of that relationship courtesy of the PEV. Therefore having been born and bred under those circumstances, they did not know anybody or anywhere else outside their regions and thus knew not where to go.
>
> You ask where they came from, I do not know but certainly not Rwanda, Uganda or such other neighbouring principality. I do not wish to address the inference I make from this question but if I may, allow me to refer you to the archives to familiarize yourself with the fate of many a Mau Mau freedom fighter at independene when they returned from the cold slopes of Mt. Kenya and Aberdare Ranges from where they waged a seven-yr long struggle against the British colonialists to find their ancestral land occupied by homeguards...hitherto British collaborators. Since the government did not mind them at independence, they were left to wander to every corner of the Republic they had sacrificed so much to liberate. That is where most came from.
>
> I agree however, that the government should work at ensuring that peace prevails so that some - those who still hahve title to land - can be restored to their homes and duely compensated to start lives afresh. We must all strive to approach the re/settlement soberly lest we sow seeds of irrepparable discord among Kenyans who if I must state, have a right to live in every part of our Republic to start living the New Constitution.
>
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> From: odhiambo okecth <komarockswa...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2011, 12:04
> Subject: Re: [NYSA:6261] Where did these IDPs come from?
>
> Friends,
>
> >>>We have followed the circus of the Internally Displaced
>
>  Persons with utmost keenness since we believe in One Kenya Under One God.
>
> >>>However, we are now forced to come out with our thinking on the same.
>
> >>>The
>
>  term 'Internally Displaced Person' means you have been displaced from somewhere. If we have genuine peace amongst us, the Government should not be playing with our psychology about buying land for these people who have never been displaced from anywhere.
>
> >>>Those Kenyans who were
>
>  Internally Displaced should go back to where they were displaced from. What the Government should be concerned about is how to start them up again, build for them new houses and encourage dialogue and reconciliation.
>
> >>>But when the Government seems too pre-occupied with the idea of
>
>  buying land for these Kenyans., we are left to ask; Where were they displaced from and what became of their land? Or, was the land Displaced as well?
>
> >>>Secondly, it is a very sad scenario that Kenyans butchered each other and had some Displaced. This affected a cross section of Kenyans. How come what we are seeing now does not represent the face of Kenya?
>
> >>>Do we have some breed of Kenyans who must be transplanted across the country for expediency reasons?
>
> >>>If we want genuine peace, it must be our responsibility to accommodate each other as brethren. But when the Government attempts to transplant some Kenyans in Narok and fail, they attempt to do the same in Endebess and they fail again, it calls for quick audit.
>
> >>>Who are these Kenyans the Government is toying with all the times and where did they come from? Where did the Government get these people from?
>
> >>>The Government must stop this circus and face reality. Kenyans are
>
>  watching this saga with very keen interest as we wish all Kenyans well.
>
>
>
> >>>If it is to be, it is up to me. A Clean Kenya Starts With me. A Peaceful Kenya is my Responsibility.
>
> >>>Peace and blessings,
>
> >>>Odhiambo T Oketch
> >>>CEO KCDN NairobiNationwide Coordinator - Monthly Nationwide Clean-up Campaign
> >>>PO Box 47890-00100,
> >>>Nairobi Kenya.
> >>>Tel; 0724 365 557 0735 529 126
> >>>Email; o...@kcdnkenya.org, komarockswa...@yahoo.com    
> >>>http://kcdnkomarockswatch.blogspot.com
> >>>friendsofk...@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Facebook; Odhiambo T Oketch
>
> >>>Odhiambo T Oketch is the current
>
>  Chairman to the City Council of Nairobi Stakeholders Evaluation Team on Performance Contracting and Rapid Results Management. He is also Chair to the Nyamonye Catholic Church Development Fund.He was also the Co-Chair and Coordinator of The Great Nairobi Walk against Corruption that was held in Nairobi on the 22nd October 2010
>
> >>>--- On Sat, 4/23/11, Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyand...@phsotey.fi> wrote:
>
> >>>>From: Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyand...@phsotey.fi>
> >>>>Subject: [PK] There are NO IDPs in Kenya anymore/To Karanja
> >>>>To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com, ka_g...@hotmail.com
> >>>>Date: Saturday, April 23, 2011, 5:02 AM
>
> >>>>Karanja,
>
> >>>>Nobody is against the IDPs except this government lead by Kibaki and orchestered by Uhuru Kenyatta and now Ruto. These people now called IDPs had a life before 2007 PEV and each and every one still alive can elaborate how he/she made life before 2007. It is now going almost 5 years why can`t their so leader collect information and give the government how they used to survive before 2007. If somebody burnt their kiosk or shop  let them show where those properties were
>
>  located, we need to live in peace do you get it?. After all for kenya to move on we need re-concilliation. I do not think that re-concilliation means going to a new land and start right away a new war zone. We are tired with wars and fighting. If this government is providing land to the landless then it should start with Kenyans who have been landless since independence. Kenyattas does not deserve a land the same size as nyanza
>  province and you
>  still have the guts to tell us that we should not offer solutions. Curing symptoms and leaving the cause of the disease will not help anything, starting another war front with different tribes will also not help in the long run. If counties are created then those IDPs now matching to Kitale will see hell again, may be even more than the one they saw in rift valley. I think only fools do not get it now. By the way do you know how much Diaspora sent home to help in the PEV. If you do not know then just shut up.
>
> >>>>Paul Nyandoto
>
> >>>>>>> karanja goro  04/23/11 12:20 AM >>>
> >>>>IDP are still there. why do we in this forum think IDP are only those who owned land. most of us in this fora ve little use for land. its the same for some IDP's who were experts in different fields other than farming. the IDP's issue is more than an intellectual discource which we seem to be expounding here. its sad most of those offering their views
>
>  are not even here- in kenya- Can we stop offering solutions to kenyans who are on the ground from our ivory towers.
>
> >>>>Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 04:14:46 -0700
> >>>>From: ikirimakagwi...@yahoo.com
> >>>>Subject: Re: [PK] There are NO IDPs in Kenya anymore
> >>>>To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
> >>>>CC: manderae...@gmail.com; paul.nyand...@phsotey.fi
>
> >>>>Paul
> >>>>What i am seeing today is a case similar to a mentally sick person who smiles when thing are bad and cries when things are good. Can we trust Kenyas for what they say anymore? If somebody
>
>  kills your child and i see you eating together, unless am mentally retarded not to smell a rat. The two guys are, one organized for killing a certain tribe and the other defended his people by organizing more killings. Today both are very good friends, yet no going back of the IDPs from where they came from. If this is true unity, it should also benefit the IDPs. As these guys are cerebrating, no IDP is talking and this is even more shocking. I would be expecting IDPs to react at this time but they are silent. I hope you are also smelling a rat here. There is so much the two and those IDPs know that we
>
> >>>>don't know. No wonder Murugi can threaten to strip naked if the ocampos never returned from Hague, yet she cannot do the same if IDPs are not resettled. Is it because Ruto excited her by saying he was a man and those men in IDPs are women? Think twice about the IDP and ocampo6 relationship.
>
> >>>>Rose
>
> >>>>From: Paul Nyandoto
> >>>>To: manderae...@gmail.com; progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
> >>>>Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 1:27:00 PM
> >>>>Subject: [PK] There are NO IDPs in Kenya anymore
>
> >>>>Humans,
>
> >>>>Just start by calling me names because of the topic I have placed up there, but sometimes somebody has to call a spade  a spade NOT a big spoon. Post election violence was at the end of 2007 and the early months of 2008. We are now in 2011 and next year we are facing both presidential and parliamentarian election. That is almost 5 solid years since 2007 election.
>
> >>>>How comes it we still have kenyans plus government
>
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