Sunday, September 27, 2009

Re: NYC : IT'S TEAMWORK OR NO NYC -The National Youth Council a Mirage or a Reality in Kenya!

Dear Comrades,

From the start, we have had lived the life of Comrades. Every day when I contribute anything positive to the life of fellow comrades, I always do it looking forward to an end of the day when we will toast our cups for the feast of comrade life.  Then we would be able to reflect and look back to the times when we tried to be part of this world shared by millions of young people. At the end of the day, do we want to look at ourselves as victorious as a team or divided as individuals?

Thus far, history has taught us that a divided Government will never head Kenya on the right path.  We seem to have forgotten our values as NYCeers (Comrades) and have started aping what is going on in the current Government where everybody wants to shine as an individual forgetting that he/she needs a full cabinet to make any reachable goals or reality.  Or have we given up on teamwork?  Why is the trust we had for our fellow comrades fading away all of a sudden? And are we converting our dreams into a Utopian dream or a realistic possibility?

NYC is not about fighting or solving out our differences.  It has always provided an opportunity for mentoring one another.  Today, for a Kenyan youth to find a mentor is never easy, especially when everyone around is diseased to a level where they feel chronically insecure of you just by virtue of being a youth.  When the NYC bill came around, I mean, we realized it needed some ammendments and this was for the benefit fo all the young people whose lives were men't to be improved by that bill.  Due to the limited time that we had, the best way forward was to approach some of those who were meant to pass this bill in parliament, reason with them and share some of the ideas on how best the ammendments would be made without interfering with the whole process.  This worked out very well and so far there seem to be some light in the tunnel.  Kudos to those who tried!  One of the reasons why things happened this way was because most of us realized that our Members of Parliament meant to pass this bill are busy people and without making a move, the chances of them passing a bill without even going through it was so high.  Reasons being its a bill that doesn't even touch any of them, i.e. apart from the money matters.  To date, nobody has come up with an alternative approach and that is why I want to believe the majority of us are in for what has worked.  For now, we have a bill to ammend and once its done, we have a task ahead to operationalize this bill.

Secondly, let us not forget that whatever we share or whichever actions we take, we do  it for the benefit of all of us.  We all don't come from Nairobi and therefore depend on the mails or phone calls to level up with those on the ground.  So, when we shun others from sharing their actions and best way forward, how are we going to ensure that we are singing the same song?  And where are we supposed to merge our ideas and ensure that all our needs are taken into consideration during major decision making processes?  Besides, we need those updates to know who is doing what where in order to decide on how best we can contribute from a distance.

Working harder, putting the best into the game and solving the puzzles as a team, could do wonders for us all.  Growth is something natural to everyone, and nobody ceases to grow simply because others are growing.  So lets not fear giving others a chance to grow but instead fight for perfection, honesty and commitment to make our little world big for us!  This could be done only through perserverance, sincerity and resolutness.  Certainly, we cannot afford to lose our past now, but whichever actions we take either as individuals or as a group, the world is watching. If we truly have a dream to pass on the legacy to others then we must learn to appreciate as well as acknowledge others.  For our Society would be better if we shun our false ego and develop deeper sense able to look into the fruition of time! 

We have come from far and are doing a good job.



From: Emmanuel Dennis <>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:47:14 AM
Subject: NYC Re: The National Youth Council a Mirage or a Reality in Kenya!

My Good Friend Fwamba NC Fwamba "The ROCK",
Thanks for the questions. I will attempt to shade light on the issues you raised.
Several suggestions have been mooted on the ending mandate of the YEDF Board and also the pending National Youth Council Bill both in this forum and off line. We have been searching for answers. 

Refer to the resolutions of NYC IV at Bomas of Kenya for the mandate as given to the NYC. Since this is an emerging issue, you are most welcome to suggest. Otherwise we will be making noise again after the Bill has been passed and the board has been appointed. The approach is to have as many youth groups in Kenya submitting their proposals to the Ministry independently. This will will show that young people in Kenya care about processes that are geared towards their welfare. It will also show the interest that the youth have in national processes. 

The NYC's mandate is to promote the full participation of the youth in the national agenda. If we the youth keep quiet someone will do that duty for us and am sure we wont make merry when the news finally dawn on us.

On your issue around legitimacy,
We are all Kenyans and should have an inherent right to voice our concerns on issues that affect us without any one questioning the legitimacy of those concerns as long as they are for the good welfare of society.The inaugural YEDF Board will be reaching the peak of its term as per to the constitution. A new one will be put in place. It is about responsive citizenship to make sure we the youth have a voice in this only issue that concerns us. 

Fwamba is one of the most responsive kenyan, citizens based on the track record of what you have done and experienced as you fight for the good welfare of Kenyans. It would be foolhardy for any one to ask you questions as to Who gave you the mandate? or Were you legitimate to do what you did?

I think it is clear that all  processes taking place on this NYC forum, are open with the participation of all. All suggestions are welcome. So is yours.

May the forces be with you.


On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:17 PM, crispus fwamba <> wrote:
What method do we use to ensure that we have the right names.and what gives NYC mandate to carry out all these activities such as meeting ministers and the ilk.I hope its not selfish lobbying games.and who has the authority to submit the so called list?I hope this is not a conspiracy of self imposed leaders of the youth.What is the legitimacy of whoever is supposed to compile"the list".This is because many people have done a lot about this without necessarily shouting about it.

From: Emmanuel Dennis <>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:58:44 AM

Subject: NYC Re: The National Youth Council a Mirage or a Reality in Kenya!

Good people,
Susan, your issues are spot on. We need to point them out and ensure we have all the support in terms of numbers and voice to ensure those amendments are carried into the bill. The problem is that only limited amendments are permissible. Lets carry on the lobbying.

Stella raises key issues and i think, we have the voice and will to ensure we determine what kind of Council we will get. If we continue the discussion and engage the MPs then they will give us what we want. I am in agreement with Mwalulu that we should directly target the War lords. I am volunteering my self, and i want more volunteers so that we can purpose to meet Raila, Uhuru, Ruto, Balala, Kalonzo. In the first and second week of October in order to drum up support for the council. I am also availing my self to
be part of the team that will meet Hon Sophia Abdi as they meet with the Minister MOYAS and deliberately make the recommendations at the Committee Level.

I second Sonia's suggestion that Youth Agenda and AYT keep us in the loop on all the developments so that we are able to make the necessarily objective voices into the debate. Engaging the youth at the mashinani is critical, we have a number of local initiatives going on, let us make those forums, encompass the NYC discussions.

Mungatana was not out of order, I was also having the same feeling when I was reading Oparanya's contribution.

Sonia, on the suggestion of compiling names for the YEDF Board, can we come up with a mechanism to do that, and can we give our selves a timeline to have the names submitted to the Ministry? They say Fortune favors the bold. Let us all be bold on this, we wont lose it.

I am giving this process my all.


Emmanuel Dennis Ngongo
P.O. Box 8799 - 00200
Nairobi Kenya
Cell: +254 722619005

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Stella Agara <> wrote:

Thanks, I try.


From: [] On Behalf Of Ochieng kh
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:30 AM

Subject: NYC Re: The National Youth Council a Mirage or a Reality in Kenya!


Thanks Stella for sharing very useful resources. I salute your efforts and commitment with honor and humility. From the Hansard report, it is evident that there is good-will for the establishment of the national Youth Council. There is need therefore to build on the gains generated so far not by blaming or criticizing but rather by expressing gratitude to the members of parliament who supported the bill and secondy by continued engagement and dialogue around issues germane to the refinement of the Bill. I suggest NYC should write to these exemplary members of parliament as well as possibly host a further consultative meeting on the next steps in so far as the bill is at issue. All in all, kudos for the good progress. Best wishes always,  

Ochieng M.K
Phone Number (Office) +254-20-3861530/1
Cell Phone Number:+254-723-745-817

"We can nobly save or meanly lose the last best hope of earth" Abraham Lincoln

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Stella Agara <> wrote:

From: Stella Agara <>
Subject: NYC Re: The National Youth Council a Mirage or a Reality in Kenya!
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:22 AM



Your answer lies in the results of the discussions this guys had in parliament. I wouldn't ask whether the youth council thing is a mirage, I would instead be asking whether policy makers have internalized the concept of NYC.


Kindly find attached the Hansard for 27th August 2009 for the proceedings on the motion for the passing of the second reading. Refer to pages 32-48 for the discussion. I thought the discussions were quite positive to the extent that the politicians themselves were fronting grass root elections for the council however they were equally shall with a lot of people generalizing the council with other matters pertaining to youth e.g boda boda, cleaning up Nairobi River and staff. I like the direction the discussions took though. At least we are assured of elections.


Mungatana was however disappointing…! Read and you will see what I mean…..



From: [] On Behalf Of Emmanuel Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:05 PM
To: nyciv
Subject: NYC The National Youth Council a Mirage or a Reality in Kenya!


The National Youth Council a Mirage or a Reality in Kenya!

 Emmanuel Dennis

 September 23rd 2009

I was following the discussions around the national Youth Council bill in parliament and the turn of events left me wondering how on earth are we going to protect and promote the values of our young generation. This thought has left me wondering for the longest time. I am confused and I need some help here. 

 The National Youth Council should be  an independent oversight body that ensures all young people in Kenya are given the opportunities to excel. Politicians are however trying as much to overtake the process and make it work for themselves and their short term political interests. I was researching on the developments in Singapore, a country that overtook Kenya in its economic development a few years ago and has continued to prosper in all fields as Kenya walks back into history of the yester years. I made a few discoveries, may be we have a few lessons to learn from Singapore in creating a path for our own council here in Kenya: 

 The National Youth Council (NYC), a division of the People's Association, was set up by the Singapore government on 1 November 1989 as the national co-coordinating body for youth affairs in Singapore.

Mr Teo Ser Luck, Senior Parliamentary Secretary for Community Development, Youth and Sports and Transport is the Chairman of the National Youth Council. The Council comprises members from various government ministries, youth organizations, academic institutions, voluntary welfare organizations, the media and private sector organizations.

 It is the Advocate, Connector and Enabler for Youth. Together with other partners, the council develops a vibrant and supportive environment for youth who are inspired to dream and committed to action.

The National Youth Council:

(a) Advocates active youth citizenry - engagement, leadership and voice for issues - through programming, resources, funding and recognition. 

(b) Connects the youth sector for increased youth outreach, through creating opportunities and access, both local and overseas. 

(c) Enables the development of youth and the youth sector, through training and capacity building. 

NYC is the administering body for the Singapore Youth Award, Outstanding Youth in Education Award, and is the liaison body with ASEAN and international organizations on youth development.

 We are closing in slowly on the year and the bill is scheduled for the second reading in parliament sometimes this year. We still have an opportunity to salvage the situation and make recommendations at the committee stage. But for sure we have a few lessons to learn from. But the question is

 Are we going to save the situation from the hungry politicians that have characterized our political scene?

 On the other hand, the Youth Enterprise and Development Fund Board is supposed to be replaced by the end of this year. My question to the youth is have we made recommendations on what we need the board to look like? Or are we waiting until they appoint a board with retirees then we begin to wine and complain about it once the executive decisions have been made?

 Let us step up our quest to make our voices heard.



Emmanuel Dennis Ngongo
P.O. Box 8799 - 00200
Nairobi Kenya
Cell: +254 722619005



Emmanuel Dennis Ngongo
P.O. Box 8799 - 00200
Nairobi Kenya
Cell: +254 722619005

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